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Hello, hello, everyone.
哈喽，哈喽，大家好。
Welcome back to TalkCast Speaking.
欢迎回到 TalkCast 英语口语。
I'm your host, Emily, and I am so thrilled to have you here with us today.
我是你们的主持人艾米丽，今天能在这里和大家相聚，我感到非常兴奋。
Whether you're commuting to work, doing the dishes, or just relaxing with a cup of coffee, thank you
无论你是在通勤上班、洗碗，还是正端着一杯咖啡放松，感谢你
for letting us be part of your day.
让我们可以成为你生活的一部分。
Today, we are diving into a topic that makes many professional English learners break into a cold sweat.
今天，我们要探讨一个让许多专业英语学习者吓出一身冷汗的话题。
Running a meeting, and specifically, navigating a meeting agenda.
如何主持会议，具体来说，是驾驭会议议程。
We've all been there, sitting in a room, watching the clock tick, and wondering what is supposed to
我们都经历过那种情况，坐在房间里，看着时钟滴答滴答地走，心里直纳闷接下去
happen next.
会发生什么。
Oh, absolutely, Emily.
哦，确实是这样，艾米丽。
Just the thought of running a meeting in English makes my heart race.
一想到要用英语主持会议，我的心就狂跳不已。
Hi, everyone.
嗨，大家好。
I'm Brian.
我是布莱恩。
I recently started as a junior project coordinator at an international tech firm.
我最近在一家国际科技公司担任初级项目协调员。
And guess what?
你猜怎么着？
My manager just told me that next Tuesday, I have to lead our weekly team sync and set the agenda.
我的经理刚刚告诉我，下周二我得主持每周的团队同步会并制定议程。
I have to admit, I'm completely terrified.
我必须承认，我简直吓坏了。
First of all, Brian, congratulations on the new role.
首先，布莱恩，祝贺你获得新职位。
That is fantastic news.
这真是个极好的消息。
But second of all, don't panic.
但其次，不要惊慌。
Deep breath.
深呼吸。
You are in the right place.
你来对地方了。
Today, we are going to build a solid scaffold of phrases and strategies to help you lead that
今天，我们将构建一个坚实的短语和策略框架，来帮助你主持 那个
meeting with total confidence.
充满信心的会议。
By the time we finish, you'll be ready to run that sync like a pro.
在我们结束时，你就能像专业人士一样准备好主持那场同步会了。
How does that sound?
你觉得听起来怎么样？
That sounds like a lifesaver, Emily. Seriously.
听起来简直是我的救星啊，艾米丽。说真的。
Because right now, even the word agenda sounds a bit formal and mysterious to me.
因为现在，连“议程” 这个词对我来说都显得有点正式且神秘。
Like, I know it means a plan, but how do we actually use it in a conversation?
比如说，我知道它是个计划的意思，但我们究竟如何在对话中使用它呢？
That is a perfect starting point.
这是一个完美的切入点。
Let's break it down.
我们来拆解一下。
In simple terms, an agenda is just a list of things to be discussed at a meeting.
简单来说，议程就是要在会议上讨论的事情列表。
Think of it as your roadmap.
把它想象成你的路线图。
When we use it in business, we often say we set the agenda, which means to write or decide the list
当我们在商业场合使用它时，我们经常说“制定议程”，这意味着在会议开始前写下或决定
of topics before the meeting starts.
讨论的主题。
We also talk about sticking to the agenda, meaning staying focused on that list and not getting distracted.
我们还会谈到“坚守议程”，意思是专注于该列表而不会分心。
Let me ask you, Brian, does your team usually receive the agenda beforehand? Yes.
我问你个问题，布莱恩，你们团队通常会提前收到议程吗？是的。
Usually my manager emails it the day before.
通常我经理会在前一天发邮件过来。
But here's what confuses me.
但让我困惑的是这个。
The email always has bullet points.
邮件里总是有很多要点。
And last week, a colleague said, let's move on to the next item.
上周，一位同事说，让我们进入下一项议题。
I was so confused.
我当时非常困惑。
I looked around my desk thinking, what item?
我环顾四周的桌子心想，什么物品？
Are we selling something?
我们是在卖什么东西吗？
That is a very common and natural point of confusion.
这是一个非常常见且自然的困惑点。
In a meeting context, an item simply means a topic or a point on the agenda.
在会议语境下，一个“item”简单来说就是议程上的一个主题或要点。
It's short for agenda item.
它是议程项目的简称。
So when they say the next item, they just mean the next topic on our list.
所以当他们说下一项时，他们只是指我们清单上的下一个主题。
It has nothing to do with physical objects.
这和实体物品没有任何关系。
Let's say that again.
让我们再说一遍。
Agenda item.
议程项目。
Try using it in a sentence, Brian.
尝试在句子中用一下它，布莱恩。
Okay, let me try.
好的，让我试一试。
Our first agenda item today is the budget review.
我们今天的第一个议程项目是预算审查。
Did I get that right?
我没弄错吧？
Spot on.
完全正确。
Beautifully done.
漂亮地完成。
That sounded completely natural.
听起来完全很自然。
Now, there is one more special term you will almost always see at the very bottom of a meeting agenda.
现在，还有一个你几乎总能在会议议程最底部看到的特殊术语。
It's written as three capital letters.
它写作三个大写字母。
A -O -B.
A-O-B。
Have you ever seen that?
你曾经见过这个吗？
Oh, yes.
哦，是的。
I saw that on yesterday's meeting slide.
我在昨天的会议幻灯片上看到了。
I actually thought it was an acronym, like as of business or something.
我实际上以为它是一个缩写词，比如什么业务之类的。
What does A -O -B actually stand for?
A-O-B 实际上代表什么意思？
It stands for any other business.
它代表其他任何业务。
It's a formal way of saying, does anyone have anything else they want to talk about that wasn't on
这是一种正式的说法，问是否有人还有其他想谈论的事情，而这些事情并没有在
the main list?
主要清单上？
It usually comes at the very end of the meeting.
它通常出现在会议的最后。
So at the end, you can say, is there any other business or simply any A -O -B?
所以在最后，你可以说，还有其他事务吗或者 简单说有任何 A-O-B 吗？
It's a great opportunity for team members to bring up quick updates.
对于团队成员来说，这是一个提出快速更新的绝佳机会。
Ah, any other business.
啊，其他事务。
That makes so much sense now.
现在这太有意义了。
I used to just sit there in silence wondering why we were spelling out letters.
我过去常常只是坐在那里沉默地想知道为什么我们要把字母拼出来。
This is already helping so much. Fantastic.
这已经帮了大忙了。太棒了。
Now, let's move up our scaffolding to the next level, practical sentences and structures.
现在，让我们把脚手架提升到下一个水平，实际的句子和结构。
Imagine you're standing at the front of the room, or more likely these days, you are on a Zoom call.
想象一下你正站在房间前面，或者现在的日子里更有可能的是你在进行 Zoom 通话。
How do you actually start?
你实际上是如何开始的？
You need a friendly, professional way to get the ball rolling.
你需要一种友好、专业的方式来让事情滚动起来。
Oh, get the ball rolling.
哦，让球滚动起来。
I love that idiom.
我喜欢那个习语。
It means to get things started, right? Exactly.
它的意思是让事情开始，对吧？完全正确。
It's a wonderful idiomatic way to kick off a meeting.
这是一种开启会议的极好的惯用表达方式。
You can say, all right, everyone, let's get the ball rolling.
你可以说，好了，大家，让我们开始吧。
Or if you want to be a bit more direct and traditional, you can say, thank you all for coming.
或者如果你想更直接一点和更传统一点，你可以说，谢谢大家的光临。
Let's get started.
让我们开始吧。
Now, Brian, how would you transition from saying hello to introducing the very first topic? Hmm.
现在，布莱恩，你将如何从打招呼过渡到介绍第一个主题呢？嗯。
Maybe now we look at the first thing?
也许现在我们看第一件事？
That is grammatically fine, but in a business context, we can make it sound much more polished and professional.
这在语法上是没有问题的，但在商业语境中，我们可以让它听起来更精致、更专业。
Instead of look at the first thing, try using first, let's turn our attention to, or let's begin
代替看第一件事，尝试使用首先，让我们把注意力转向，或者让我们开始
with our first agenda item, which is, notice how smooth that sounds.
我们的第一个议程项目，即，注意听起来是多么流畅。
Let's turn our attention to.
让我们把注意力转向。
It guides your listener's focus gently.
它温和地引导听众的注意力。
Oh, turn our attention to.
哦，把我们的注意力转向。
That sounds so elegant.
听起来太优雅了。
I'm definitely writing that one down.
我绝对要把那个记下来。
Let me try saying it.
让我试着说一下。
First, let's turn our attention to the project timeline.
首先，让我们把注意力转向项目时间线。
Excellent delivery.
精彩的表达。
Your pronunciation was clear, and you put the stress right where it belongs, on attention and timeline.
你的发音很清晰，而且你把重音放在了正确的地方，即 attention 和 timeline 上。
Now, building on that, what happens when you finish discussing that timeline and need to move to the
现在，在此基础上，当你结束讨论那个时间表并需要转到
next topic?
下一个话题？
This is where many learners get stuck and just say, next, next.
这就是许多学习者被 困住并只说 next, next 的地方。
Yes, I definitely do that.
是的，我绝对会那样做。
I just say next and hope someone else starts talking.
我只会说 next 然后希望别人开始说话。
What is a better way?
有没有更好的方法？
You can use what we call transition signals.
你可以使用我们所说的过渡信号词。
Here are two simple, golden phrases you can memorize.
这里有两个你可以背诵的简单、黄金短语。
First, moving on to our next item.
首先，进入我们的下一个项目。
And second, that brings us to, for example, that brings us to our next agenda item, marketing updates.
第二，这把我们带到，例如，这把我们带到下一个议程项目，市场更新。
It connects the two topics like a bridge.
它像一座桥一样把这两个话题连接起来。
That is so helpful.
这太有帮助了。
Moving on to, and that brings us to.
Moving on to，以及这把我们带到。
It sounds like I am actually in control of the flow rather than just waiting around. Exactly.
这听起来我实际上是在控制流程，而不仅仅是干等着。没错。
You are the pilot of this plane, Brian.
Brian，你是这架飞机的飞行员。
And as the pilot, sometimes you encounter turbulence.
作为飞行员，有时你会遇到湍流。
Like when someone on your team starts talking too much about something completely unrelated.
就像你团队里的人开始喋喋不休地谈论一些完全无关的事情时。
Let's say you're discussing the timeline and someone starts complaining about the office coffee machine.
比方说你在讨论时间表，而有人开始抱怨办公室的咖啡机。
What do you do?
你会怎么做？
Oh boy.
天哪。
That actually happened last week.
这实际上上周就发生过。
I didn't know what to say, so I just let them talk about coffee for 10 minutes.
我不知道该说什么，所以我就让他们聊了10分钟的咖啡。
It wasted so much time.
这浪费了太多时间。
That is a classic scenario.
这是一个经典的场景。
In English, we call this going off on a tangent or losing track.
在英语中，我们称之为离题或失去方向。
As the meeting leader, it is your job to politely bring everyone back.
作为会议领导者，你的工作是礼貌地把大家拉回正题。
In Western business culture, timekeeping is highly valued, so people actually appreciate it if you
在西方商业文化中，守时备受重视，所以如果你这样做，人们其实会很感激。
keep things moving.
让事情继续推进。
Here is a perfect, polite phrase to do this.
这里有一个完美、礼貌的短语来做到这一点。
In the interest of time, let's table this discussion for now and get back to the agenda.
为了节省时间，我们暂时把这次讨论搁置起来，回到议程上来。
Wait, table this discussion?
等等，把 这个讨论给搁置了？
Like a kitchen table? Yes.
像厨房的桌子那样？是的。
It sounds funny, doesn't it?
听起来挺搞笑的，不是吗？
To table something in American English means to postpone it or put it aside for later.
在美式英语中，把某事搁置意味着推迟它或把它放在一边以后再谈。
It's like putting a file on a table to look at another day.
这就好像把一个文件放在桌上改天再看。
And in the interest of time just means because we have limited time.
而“in the interest of time”的意思就是因为我们有有限的时间。
So when you say, in the interest of time, let's table this, you are saying, because we are busy,
所以当你说“in the interest of time, let's table this”时，你是在说，因为我们很忙，
let's save this topic for later.
让我们把这个话题留到以后再讨论。
It is polite, but very firm. Wow.
它很礼貌，但也非常坚定。哇。
In the interest of time, let's table this.
为了时间的利益，我们把这个搁置了吧。
That is an incredibly powerful phrase.
这是一个难以置信地有力的短语。
It sounds so professional.
听起来太专业了。
What about get back on track? Yes.
那回到正轨道上呢？是的。
Let's get back on track is the perfect follow -up.
让我们回到正轨上是完美的后续。
It uses the metaphor of a train on a track.
它用了火车在轨道上的隐喻。
If the train goes off the track, it crashes.
如果火车脱轨了，它就会撞毁。
We want our meeting to stay on the track.
我们希望我们的会议保持在正轨上。
So you can combine them.
所以你可以把它们结合起来。
In the interest of time, let's table the coffee discussion and get back on track with our timeline. Perfect.
为了节省时间，我们先把咖啡讨论搁置起来，回到我们的时间表上来。太完美了。
I love that.
我喜欢那个。
It makes me feel much more confident about handling interruptions.
这让我对处理打断感到更有信心。
But Emily, what if I need someone else to speak?
但是艾米莉，如果我需要某人发言怎么办？
Like, I don't want to do all the talking.
比如，我不想包揽所有的发言。
How do I invite a teammate to present their agenda item?
我该如何邀请队友展示 他们的议程项目呢？
Ah, managing the turn -taking.
啊，管理轮流发言。
This is a crucial skill.
这是一项关键的技能。
A common mistake Chinese learners make is saying something too direct, like, now, Jerry, speak, please.
中国学习者常犯的一个错误是说话太直接了，比如：现在，杰瑞，请发言。
To native ears, speak, please can sound a bit like a command you give to a dog.
在母语者听来，“请发言”听起来有点像你对狗下达的命令。
It's too blunt.
这太生硬了。
Oh, dear.
噢，天哪。
I think I might have said that before.
我想我以前可能说过那样的话。
I'm so glad you told me.
你能告诉我我真高兴。
What should I say instead to sound polite?
为了听起来有礼貌，我应该说些什么来代替呢？
No worries, Brian.
别担心，布莱恩。
That's why we are here.
这就是为什么我们在这里。
Instead of commanding them to speak, you can say, I'd like to hand it over to Jerry for the
与其命令他们发言，你可以说，我想把它交给杰瑞来进行
marketing update.
市场营销更新。
Or you can use a classic idiom, Jerry, the floor is yours.
或者你可以用一个经典的习语，杰瑞，把发言权交给你。
The floor is yours means it is your turn to speak to the audience.
“把发言权交给你”意思是轮到你向听众发言了。
It's respectful and very standard.
这很尊重人且非常标准。
The floor is yours and hand it over to.
“把发言权交给你”和交过去。
Got it.
明白了。
Those sound much friendlier and far more professional than speak, please.
那些听起来比“请发言”友好得多，也专业得多。
They absolutely do.
它们绝对是这样的。
Now, Brian, let's put all of this together.
现在，布莱恩，让我们把所有这些放在一起。
We've built your scaffold.
我们已经为你搭建好了框架。
Opening the meeting, moving between items, handling distractions, and passing the microphone.
开会、在各个项目之间切换、处理分心的事情以及传递麦克风。
Let's do a little role play.
我们来做一个小小的角色扮演。
I want you to practice running a mini -meeting with me.
我想要你跟我一起练习主持一个小会议。
Imagine you are leading our weekly sync.
想象一下你正在领导我们的每周同步会。
I will play your colleague who gets easily distracted.
我将扮演你那个很容易分心的同事。
Are you ready? Whew. Okay.
你准备好了吗？呼。好的。
My heart is beating a little fast, but let's do it.
我的心跳得有点快，但我们开始吧。
I'm ready to try.
我准备好尝试了。
Whenever you're ready, Captain.
无论何时你准备好，队长。
Lead the way.
带领大家前进。
All right.
好吧。
Good morning, everyone.
大家早上好。
Thanks for coming.
谢谢你们的到来。
Let's get the ball rolling.
让我们把球滚动起来（开始吧）。
First, let's turn our attention to our website redesign project.
首先，让我们把注意力转向我们的网站重新设计项目。
I'd like to hand it over to Emily for the update.
我想把接力棒交给艾米莉来做更新汇报。
Emily, the floor is yours.
艾米莉，发言权是你的。
Thanks, Brian.
谢谢，布莱恩。
Well, the website is looking great.
嗯，这个网站看起来很棒。
But actually, speaking of the website, did anyone see that funny cat video on the homepage yesterday?
但事实上，说到网站，昨天有人看到主页上那个搞笑的猫咪视频了吗？
It reminded me of my own cat, Whiskers.
这提醒了我自己的猫，胡须。
He did the funniest thing this morning.
他今天早上做了最搞笑的事情。
Oh, um, Emily?
哦，呃，艾米莉？
Your cat sounds very cute.
你的猫听起来很可爱。
But in the interest of time, let's table this discussion about Whiskers and get back on track with
但为了节省时间，我们把关于威斯克斯的讨论暂且搁置，回到正轨上来
the website update.
网站更新。
And scene.
好了，场景结束。
Oh my goodness, Brian.
天哪，布莱恩。
That was absolutely brilliant.
真是太精彩了。
You handled my distraction perfectly.
你完美地处理了我的分心。
You were polite, you used the phrases correctly, and you kept control of the meeting.
你很有礼貌，短语用得很准确，并且控制住了会议的节奏。
How did it feel? Wow.
感觉怎么样？哇。
It actually felt really good.
实际上感觉真的很不错。
Using those specific phrases gave me a kind of script to follow, so I didn't have to translate from
使用这些特定的短语给了我一种可以遵循的台词，所以我不用去……
Chinese in my head while trying to be polite.
在脑子里把中文翻译过来，同时还要努力保持礼貌。
It just flowed naturally.
一切都自然地流畅进行了。
That is the power of formulaic language, or prefabricated phrases.
这就是套话的力量，或者说预制短语。
When you have these templates memorized, your brain doesn't have to work as hard, which frees up
当你把这些模板记住后，你的大脑就不用那么辛苦了，这释放出……
your mental energy to actually listen and engage.
你的精神精力去真正倾听和参与。
You did an incredible job today, Brian.
布莱恩，你今天做得不可思议。
I can see a massive growth curve already.
我已经能看到巨大的增长曲线了。
Thank you so much, Emily.
非常感谢你，艾米丽。
I feel so much better about my meeting next Tuesday now.
对于下周二的会议，我现在感觉好多了。
I actually think I might enjoy it.
我甚至觉得我可能会喜欢它。
I have no doubt you will do wonderfully.
我毫不怀疑你会表现得非常出色。
Now, before we wrap up today's episode, let's do a quick recap for our listeners.
现在，在结束今天的节目之前，让我们为听众做一个快速的回顾。
Today, we learned some essential tools for managing a meeting agenda.
今天，我们学习了一些管理会议议程的必不可少的工具。
Remember, first, use agenda items to refer to the topics, and look out for AOB, any other business,
记住，首先，使用议程项目来指代话题，并留意 AOB （其他事项），
at the end of your agenda.
在你的议程末尾。
Second, use smooth transition signals, like turn our attention to, and that brings us to...
第二，使用流畅的过渡信号，比如把我们的注意力转向……
Third, manage time and distractions politely by saying, in the interest of time, let's table this
第三，礼貌地管理时间和分心话题，通过说“为了节省时间，我们把这个暂且搁置”
and get back on track.
并回到正轨上来。
And finally, invite others to speak by saying, I'll hand it over to, or the floor is yours.
最后，邀请其他人发言，可以说“我把它交接给……”或者“请发言”。
Those are such great takeaways.
这些都是非常棒的收获。
For everyone listening, my challenge to you is to choose just two of these phrases and try to use
对于所有听众，我对你们的挑战是选择其中仅仅两个短语，并尝试使用
them in your next English meeting.
它们在你的下一次英语会议中。
Trust me, it makes a world of difference.
相信我，这会产生巨大的差异。
That is an excellent challenge, Brian.
布莱恩，这是一个极好的挑战。
Thank you.
谢谢你。
And to our wonderful listeners, if you enjoyed today's episode and want to unlock more business
致我们伟大的听众，如果你喜欢今天的节目并且想要解锁更多商务
English tips, worksheets, and exclusive community events, please consider joining our Talkscape
英语小贴士、工作表和独家社区活动，请考虑加入我们的 Talkscape
member club.
会员俱乐部。
Don't forget to subscribe, rate us five stars, and share this episode with a colleague who might
别忘了订阅我们，给我们打五星好评，并把这一集分享给可能
need a little confidence boost for their next meeting.
需要一点信心提升的同事。
Yes, please leave us a comment.
是的，请给我们留个评论。
Let us know what is the hardest part about running meetings in English for you.
让我们知道对你来说，用英语主持会议最难的部分是什么。
Emily and I read all your feedback, and we might choose your topic for our next episode. Absolutely.
艾米丽和我阅读了你们所有的反馈，我们可能会选择你的话题作为下一期节目。绝对的。
We love hearing from you.
我们喜欢听到你们的声音。
Thank you again for tuning in to Talkscape Speaking.
再次感谢你收听 Talkscape Speaking。
Keep practicing, stay confident, and we will see you next time.
坚持练习，保持自信，我们下期见。
Bye -bye.
再见。
Goodbye, everyone.
再见，大家。
Thank you.
谢谢你。
Thank you.
谢谢你。
