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Hello, and welcome to another episode of TalkCast Discovery, the podcast where we step off the map
你好，欢迎收听新一期的《TalkCast Discovery》，这是一个带我们跳出常规地图的播客节目
and dive deep into the world's most fascinating cultures, histories, and traditions.
深入探索世界上最迷人的文化、历史和传统。
I am your host, Caroline.
我是你们的主持人卡罗琳。
Today, we are traveling to the far southeastern corner of China, to a place where ancient customs
今天，我们将前往中国遥远的东南角，去往一个古老习俗
are not just kept in museums, but are lived every single day.
不仅被保存在博物馆里，而且还融入了日常生活的每一天。
I am talking about Chaozhou, a beautiful, historic city in Guangdong province.
我所说的就是潮州，一座位于广东省、美丽且历史悠久的城市。
Known for its exquisite crafts, its legendary cuisine, and a very slow, mindful way of life,
潮州以其精美的手工艺、传奇般的美食以及极其缓慢、专注的生活方式而闻名，
Chaozhou is a treasure trove of cultural heritage.
这里是文化遗产的宝库。
Joining me today to explore this wonderful city is Alexander, a cultural historian and travel writer
今天与我一起探索这座美妙城市的是亚历山大，他是一位文化历史学家和旅行作家
who lived in Chaozhou for five years.
他曾在潮州居住过五年。
Welcome to the show, Alexander.
欢迎来到节目，亚历山大。
Thank you, Caroline.
谢谢你，卡罗琳。
It is an absolute pleasure to be here.
能来到这里真的是绝对的荣幸。
You know, every time I think of Chaozhou, I immediately hear the gentle sound of the Han River
你知道吗，每当我想起潮州，我就会立刻听到韩江温柔的流水声
flowing, the clicking sound of tiny clay teacups, and the rich, sweet aroma of roasted Donkong tea leaves.
流淌的声音，微型陶制茶杯的碰撞声，以及烘焙单丛茶叶那浓郁、香甜的香气。
It is a city that captures your senses right from the moment you arrive.
这是一座从你抵达那一刻起就牢牢抓住你感官的城市。
I am so excited to share its stories with your listeners today.
今天我非常高兴能与你的听众分享它的故事。
Oh, that sounds incredibly inviting.
哦，这听起来真是无比的诱人。
You mentioned the Han River, and that is actually where I wanted to start.
你提到了韩江，而那也正是我想要开始聊的地方。
Chaozhou has such a deep historical connection to water, and specifically to this river.
潮州与水有着如此深厚的历史渊源，特别是这条河流。
Can you tell us a bit about the history of Chaozhou and how it got its name? Absolutely.
你能给我们讲讲潮州的历史以及它是如何得名的吗？当然可以。
The history of Chaozhou goes back over 1 ,600 years.
潮州的历史可以追溯到1600多年前。
The name Chaozhou literally means the prefecture of the tide, because it lies close to the sea where
“潮州”这个名字从字面上解释就是“潮汐之州”，因为它紧邻大海，就在
the river meets the ocean tides.
河流与海洋潮汐汇合的地方。
Geographically, it was somewhat isolated from central China by high mountains.
从地理上来说，它由于高山阻隔，在一定程度上与中原地区相对隔绝。
This isolation was actually a blessing in disguise.
这种隔绝实际上是塞翁失马，焉知非福。
It allowed the local culture, language, and customs to develop in a very unique way, preserving
它让当地的文化、语言和习俗以一种非常独特的方式发展，保留了
ancient Chinese traditions that were lost in other parts of the country.
在中国其他地方已经失传的古老华夏传统。
But you cannot talk about Chaozhou's history without mentioning a famous historical figure named Han Yu.
但谈到潮州的历史，就不能不提到一位名叫韩愈的著名历史人物。
He was a great poet and government official from the Tang dynasty who was exiled to Chaozhou in the
他是唐代一位伟大的诗人兼朝廷官员，在9世纪时被流放到潮州
9th century.
时值9世纪。
Even though he was only there for about eight months, his impact was massive.
尽管他只在那里待了大约八个月，但他的影响却是巨大的。
He promoted education, helped improve agriculture, and won the hearts of the local people so deeply
他推广教育，帮助改善农业，深深赢得了当地人民的心，
that they named the local river, the Han River, and the nearby mountain, Han Mountain, after him.
以至于他们用他的名字来命名当地的河流韩江以及附近的大山韩山。
It is a beautiful example of how much the local people value culture and education.
这是一个极好的例子，展示了当地人有多么重视文化和教育。
That is amazing!
那真是太令人惊叹了！
To have a major river and mountain named after you just for eight months of good work is a true
仅凭八个月的卓越政绩，就能让一条主要的大河和高山以你的名字命名，这真是
testament to his legacy.
对他所留下的文化遗产的真实见证。
Speaking of the Han River, there is a very famous landmark that crosses it, right?
说到韩江，有一处横跨其上的非常著名的地标，对吧？
The Guangji Bridge?
广济桥吗？
I have seen pictures of it, and it looks absolutely unique.
我看过它的照片，它看起来绝对是独一无二的。
What is the story behind it?
这背后有什么故事吗？
Ah, the Guangji Bridge, also known as Xiangji Bridge.
啊，广济桥，也被称 为湘子桥。
It is truly an engineering marvel of ancient China.
它确实是中国古代工程史上的一个奇迹。
It was built during the Song dynasty and is celebrated as one of China's four famous ancient bridges.
它始建于宋代，被誉为中国四大古桥之一。
But what makes it unique is that it is the world's first open, closed bridge.
但它的独特之处在于，它是世界上第一座启闭式桥梁。
The two ends of the bridge are made of solid stone pillars and beautiful traditional pavilions.
大桥的两端由坚固的石柱和美丽的传统亭台组成。
But the middle section is a floating bridge made of 18 wooden boats connected together.
但中间部分是一座浮桥，由18只连接在一起的木船组成。
In the old days, and still today for demonstrations, these boats would be disconnected and moved
在过去，以及今天为了进行展示，这些船只都会被解开并移开
aside during the day to allow large ships to pass through the river.
以便在白天让大船通过河流。
Then they would be chained back together to let people walk across.
然后它们会被重新连接在一起，让人们走过去。
Walking on it feels like taking a step back in time.
走在上面感觉就像在时间中倒退了一步。
You can feel the gentle movement of the river beneath your feet while looking at the ancient city
在看着古城的同时，你能感受到脚下河流温柔的流动
walls on one side and the green hills on the other.
一侧是城墙，另一侧是郁郁葱葱的山丘。
It is an unforgettable sensory experience.
这是一次令人难忘的感官体验。
That sounds incredibly romantic.
听起来极其浪漫。
Imagine a bridge that breathes with the river, opening and closing to keep the water flowing and the
想象一座与河流一同呼吸的桥，开启和关闭以保持水流不断，并且
trade moving.
使贸易畅通。
That is brilliant.
那真是太妙了。
Now, once you cross that bridge and enter the ancient city, you are greeted by narrow streets,
现在，一旦你越过那座桥进入古城，迎接你的是狭窄的街道，
traditional houses, and an incredible display of local arts.
传统的民居，以及令人赞叹的本地艺术展示。
I have heard that Chaozhou is very famous for its handicrafts, especially its wood carving.
我听说潮州以其手工艺而闻名，尤其是木雕。
Can you tell us about that?
你能和我们聊聊那个吗？
Yes, Chaozhou wood carving is legendary.
是的，潮州木雕堪称传奇。
It is often called gold lacquered wood carving because the finished carvings are covered in delicate
它通常被称为金漆木雕，因为雕刻好的成品都覆盖着精致的
gold leaf.
金箔。
I remember visiting a master craftsman's workshop in the old town.
我记得参观过老城区一位大师级匠人的工作坊。
The air smelled of freshly cut camphor wood, and all you could hear was the gentle tap -tap of small chisels.
空气中弥漫着新砍伐的樟木香气，你能听到的只有小凿子轻轻敲击的声音。
What makes Chaozhou wood carving so special is its multi -layered three -dimensional technique.
潮州木雕之所以如此独特，在于其多层立体的技法。
A single piece of wood is carved into multiple layers, sometimes up to five or six layers deep.
单单一块木头就被雕刻出多个层次，有时深达五六层。
You can look through the carving and see tiny, incredibly detailed figures of warriors, birds,
你可以透过雕刻，看到极尽精细、栩栩如生的微型武士、飞鸟、
flowers, and crabs inside a hollowed -out space.
花卉，以及镂空空间里的螃蟹。
They often carve auspicious symbols, like lobsters and crabs in a basket, which represent prosperity
他们经常雕刻吉祥的寓意符号，比如竹篓里的龙虾和螃蟹，代表着繁荣
and a good harvest.
和好收成。
These carvings were traditionally used to decorate ancestral halls and temples, but also everyday
这些雕刻传统上用于装饰祖先祠堂和寺庙，但也用于日常的
furniture in wealthy homes.
富裕人家的家具。
The level of patience and skill required is mind -blowing.
这所需的耐心和技艺水平令人惊叹。
It can take a master artist several months or even years to complete just one piece.
一位大师级艺术家可能要花数月甚至数年才能完成一件作品。
It sounds like true meditation through art.
这听起来像是通过艺术进行的真正冥想。
I can almost picture those golden layers shining in the dim light of an old ancestral temple.
我几乎能想象到那些金色的层次在古老祠堂的昏暗光线中熠熠生辉。
And from what I understand, this attention to detail runs through all Chaozhou art forms, including
而且据我了解，这种对细节的注重贯穿于潮州所有的艺术形式，包括
Chaozhou opera and embroidery.
潮剧和潮绣。
There is a real sense of pride in doing things with ultimate care and patience.
以极致的用心和耐心去做好一件事，能带来一种真正的自豪感。
Would you say that is a core part of the local character?
你会说这是当地人性格的核心部分吗？
Oh, absolutely.
噢，确实如此。
The people of Chaozhou are known for being extremely hardworking, detail -oriented, and patient.
潮州人以极其刻苦耐劳、注重细节和耐心而闻名。
They have a local saying, which translates to, craft must be delicate, life must be savored.
他们有一句俗语，翻译过来就是：“手艺要精细，生活要细品”。
And there is no better way to understand this life philosophy than through their most famous
而要理解这种生活哲学，没有比通过他们最著名的
tradition, Gong Fu Tea.
传统——工夫茶，更好的方式了。
Caroline, have you ever experienced a traditional Chaozhou Gong Fu tea ceremony?
卡罗琳，你体验过传统的潮州工夫茶茶艺吗？
I've heard of it, but I have never experienced it in its birthplace.
我听说过，但我从未在它的发源地亲身体验过。
I know that Gong Fu means effort or skill, right?
我知道“工夫”的意思是精力或技艺，对吧？
So it is not just about drinking tea.
所以这不仅仅关乎喝茶。
It is about how you brew it. Exactly.
而是关于你如何冲泡它。没错。
In Chaozhou, Gong Fu tea is not a luxury or a special ceremony reserved only for holidays.
在潮州，工夫茶不是什么奢侈品，也不是专为节日保留的特殊仪式。
It is a daily ritual.
它是一种日常的仪式。
You will see a tea set in every single shop, office, and home.
你会在每一家商铺、办公室和住宅里看到茶具。
Even the taxi drivers sometimes have portable tea sets.
甚至连出租车司机有时都随身携带便携式茶具。
The word Gong Fu indeed refers to the time, skill, and effort required to brew the perfect cup.
“工夫”这个词确实指的是冲泡一杯完美好茶所需的时间、技巧和精力。
It uses a very small clay teapot, usually from Yi Xing or locally made in Chaozhou, and three tiny
它使用的是一种非常小的陶土茶壶，通常来自宜兴或潮州本地制作，以及三个极小的
porcelain cups arranged in a circle.
瓷杯排成一个圈。
There is a very specific sequence of steps.
有一个非常特定的步骤顺序。
First, you warm the teapot and the cups with boiling water.
首先，你用沸水温热茶壶和茶杯。
Then, you fill the pot almost to the top with local Phoenix Dan Cong tea leaves.
然后，你用当地的凤凰单丛茶叶几乎填满茶壶至顶部。
You pour boiling water from a height to create bubbles, scrape the bubbles away with the lid, and
你从高处倒入沸水以产生泡沫，用盖子刮去泡沫，然后
then pour the tea into the three cups by moving the teapot quickly in a circle.
然后通过快速循环移动茶壶，将茶倒入三个杯子中。
This ensures that the color and flavor of the tea are exactly the same in every cup.
这确保了每杯茶的颜色和风味完全相同。
This circular pouring motion is poetically called General Guan patrolling the city.
这种循环倾倒的动作被富有诗意地称为“关公巡城”。
General Guan patrolling the city?
关公巡城？
What a dramatic name for pouring tea.
倒茶居然有这么一个戏剧性的名字。
And why are there always exactly three cups, even if there are more people?
而且为什么总是刚好三杯，即使有更多的人？
Ah, that is a great question.
啊，那是一个好问题。
There is an old saying in Chaozhou, three cups make a tea drinking, while two cups make a quiet
潮州有一句俗语，三杯成茶，而两杯则是安静的
conversation, and one cup is just for thirst.
交谈，而一杯只是为了解渴。
The three cups represent harmony and sharing.
这三杯代表着和谐与分享。
If there are four or five people, the host will pour the three cups, offer them to the guests first,
如果有四五个人，主人会倒好这三杯，先敬给客人，
and then brew another round for themselves and the remaining guests.
然后再为他们自己和剩下的客人冲泡一轮。
It's all about hospitality, taking turns, and slowing down.
这一切都关乎热情好客、轮流以及慢下来。
The tea itself, Phoenix Dan Cong, is a type of oolong tea grown on the nearby Phoenix Mountain.
茶本身——凤凰单丛，是种植在附近的凤凰山上的一种乌龙茶。
It is famous for its natural floral and fruit aromas.
它以其天然的花果香气而闻名。
Some varieties smell like wild orchids, others like honey or almonds, even though absolutely nothing
一些品种闻起来像野生兰花，另一些像蜂蜜或杏仁，尽管绝对没有
is added to the tea leaves.
任何东西被添加到茶叶中。
When you take a sep, it is very strong and slightly bitter at first, but then it leaves a sweet,
当你喝上一口时，起初味道非常浓烈且略微苦涩，但随后它会留下甜甜的
lingering aftertaste in your throat.
在你的喉咙里留下悠长的余味。
The locals call this sweet return of flavor hui gan.
当地人把这种甘甜的回味称为“回甘”。
It is a beautiful metaphor for life.
这是对人生一个美妙的比喻。
After going through bitterness and hard work, sweetness will surely follow.
在经历了苦涩和艰辛之后，甘甜一定会随之而来。
Wow, that is beautiful.
哇，那太美了。
Hui gan.
回甘。
A sweet return.
甜美的回归。
I love how a simple cup of tea can carry such a profound philosophy of life.
我喜欢一杯简单的茶如何能承载如此深刻的人生哲学。
It really teaches you to appreciate the present moment and find sweetness after the struggles.
它真的教会你去珍惜当下，并在挣扎奋斗后寻找甜蜜。
Now, all this tea must make you quite hungry, and chaozu is globally famous for its food.
现在，喝了这么多茶一定让你觉得相当饿了，而潮州因其美食而闻名全球。
In fact, many food critics say that chaozu cuisine, or chaoshan cuisine, is one of the highest
事实上，许多美食评论家都说潮州菜（或潮汕菜）是最高的
pinnacles of Chinese culinary art.
中华烹饪艺术的巅峰之一。
What makes the food there so special?
是什么让那里的食物如此特别？
Chaozu cuisine is truly extraordinary, because it focuses entirely on the freshness and natural
潮州菜真的很非凡，因为它完全专注于新鲜和天然的
flavors of the ingredients.
风味和食材。
Unlike some other Chinese cuisines that use heavy spices, garlic, or chili to create bold flavors,
与其他一些使用重香料、大蒜或辣椒来创造浓烈风味的中国菜系不同，
chaozu chefs use very light seasoning.
潮州厨师使用非常清淡的调料。
They want the seafood to taste like the sea, and the vegetables to taste like the garden.
他们希望海鲜尝起来有大海的味道，蔬菜尝起来有田园的味道。
Because of its coastal location, seafood is king.
由于其沿海的地理位置，海鲜是王道。
One of my favorite dishes is what they call cold crab.
我最喜欢的菜肴之一是他们所谓的冻蟹。
A fresh sea crab is steamed and then chilled.
一只新鲜的海蟹经过清蒸，然后冷却。
It is served cold with a sweet ginger vinegar dipping sauce.
它是冷食的，搭配甜姜醋蘸汁。
The meat is incredibly sweet, firm, and creamy.
肉质极其鲜美、结实且细腻。
Another legendary aspect of chaozu food culture is their marinated meats, especially the goose.
潮州饮食文化的另一个传奇之处是他们的卤肉，尤其是鹅肉。
They use a special breed of goose called the lionhead goose because of its massive size.
他们使用一种因体型巨大而被称为狮头鹅的特殊品种。
It is slow -cooked in a master brine made of soy sauce, star anise, cinnamon, Sichuan peppercorns,
它在由酱油、八角、肉桂、四川花椒制成的老卤汁中慢炖，
and dozens of other secret spices.
以及数十种其他秘密香料。
The meat is tender, juicy, and packed with a complex, savory flavor.
肉质鲜嫩多汁，充满着复合、咸鲜的风味。
It is absolutely mouth -watering.
这绝对让人垂涎欲滴。
Oh my goodness, you are making me so hungry.
天哪，你把我都说饿了。
The contrast between the light, fresh seafood and the rich, deeply spiced marinated goose sounds incredible.
清淡鲜美的水产与浓郁、深层香料腌制的卤鹅之间的对比，听起来太棒了。
And of course, we cannot talk about chaozu food without mentioning their famous beef hot pot and
当然，谈到潮州美食，就不能不提到他们著名的牛肉火锅以及
hand -beaten beef meatballs.
手打牛肉丸。
I have seen videos of chefs beating beef with heavy iron rods.
我曾看过厨师用重铁棒捶打牛肉的视频。
Is it really as dramatic as it looks?
真的有看起来那么有戏剧性吗？
It is even more dramatic in real life.
现实生活中其实更具戏剧性。
I remember walking down a street in chaozu and hearing this rhythmic metal sound, like a blacksmith
我记得走在潮州的街上，听到这种有节奏的金属撞击声，就像一个铁匠
at work.
在工作。
I followed the noise and saw two young men standing in front of a heavy wooden block, holding two
我循着声音走去，看到两个年轻人站在一个厚重的木砧板前，手里拿着两根
square iron rods that weigh about three kilograms each.
每根重达约三公斤的方形铁棒。
They were beating a large slab of fresh beef with incredible speed and force.
他们正以惊人的速度和力量捶打着一大块新鲜牛肉。
They do this for up to 40 minutes, until the beef is turned into a smooth, paste -like texture.
他们要这样打上40分钟，直到 牛肉变成光滑的浆糊状质地。
Because they beat the meat instead of chopping it, the muscle fibers are kept intact.
因为他们是捶打肉而不是剁碎，所以肌肉纤维保持得很完整。
This gives the resulting beef balls an incredibly springy, bouncy texture.
这赋予了制成的牛肉丸难以置信的、富有弹性的口感。
There is a running joke in China that a real chaozu beef ball is so bouncy, you can use it as a ping
在中国有一个流传很广的梗，说真正的潮州牛肉丸弹力十足，你甚至可以把它当作乒
-pong ball.
乓球打。
When you bite into one, it is so juicy that the savory broth literally bursts in your mouth.
当你咬下一口时，它多汁到鲜美的汤汁简直在你的口中爆开。
And when you eat beef hot pot in chaozu, the beef is so fresh because the slaughterhouses are very
而在潮州吃牛肉火锅时，牛肉之所以如此新鲜，是因为屠宰场离
close to the restaurants.
离餐馆非常近。
The meat is delivered several times a day, and the chefs carve it into paper -thin slices based on
肉每天配送好几次，厨师们将其切成纸一般的薄片，根据
different cuts, similar to how Western butchers cut steak.
不同的部位，类似于西方屠夫切牛排的方式。
You dip the beef into a boiling broth for just 10 seconds, and it melts in your mouth.
你只需将牛肉放入沸腾的高汤中涮10秒钟，它就会在你的口中融化。
That sounds absolutely divine.
那听起来绝对太美妙了。
It is amazing how much physical effort goes into making a single beef ball, just to get that perfect texture.
为了获得完美的口感，制作一个牛肉丸需要付出如此多的体力心血，真是令人惊叹。
It really goes back to what you said earlier about the local character, doing things with ultimate
这确实回到了你之前提到的当地人的性格，以极度的
dedication and care.
专注和用心。
Now, Alexander, you lived in chaozu for five years.
现在，亚历山大，你在潮州生活了五年。
How did living there change your own perspective on life?
在那里生活如何改变了你对生活的看法？
Did you adopt some of these local habits?
你是否养成了当地的一些习惯？
It completely transformed me, Caroline.
它彻底改变了我，卡罗琳。
Before I moved to chaozu, I was always rushing.
在我搬到潮州之前，我总是行色匆匆。
I lived in big, fast -paced cities where success was measured by how busy you were.
我生活在节奏飞快的大城市里，在那里，成功是通过你有多忙碌来衡量的。
But in chaozu, I learned the art of slowing down.
但在潮州，我学会了慢下来的艺术。
I started buying my vegetables from the local morning market, chatting with the vendors, and
我开始在当地的早市买菜，和摊主聊天，并且
learning about the seasons of different ingredients.
了解不同食材的季节性。
I bought a small gung -fu tea set, and every afternoon, instead of reaching for a quick coffee to
我买了一套小功夫茶具，每天下午，而不是急着去冲一杯咖啡来
keep me working, I would sit down and spend 30 minutes brewing tea.
维持工作状态，而是会坐下来花30分钟泡茶。
I invited friends over, and we just sat, talked, and sipped tea from those three tiny cups.
我邀请朋友过来，我们坐在一起聊天，用那三个小杯子品茶。
I realized that life is not a race to be won.
我意识到人生并不是一场必须要赢的比赛。
It is to be savored, one cup at a time, just like the tea.
它需要被细品，一杯接一杯地，就像这茶一样。
It taught me to find beauty in details, and joy in simple everyday rituals.
它教会我在细节中发现美好，在简单的日常仪式中寻找快乐。
That is a beautiful lesson.
这是一个美丽的启示。
In our modern, hyper -connected world, we often forget how to just exist and enjoy the present.
在我们这个现代、高度互联的世界里，我们常常忘记了如何仅仅是存在并享受当下。
Now, as a cultural historian, you must have seen how chaozu is changing.
现在，作为一名文化历史学家，你一定看到了潮州的变化。
How does this ancient city balance its rich traditions with the demands of modern development and tourism?
这座古城是如何在维持其丰富传统的同时，与现代发展和旅游业的需求相平衡的？
This is a very important question.
这是一个非常重要的问题。
Chaozu has become very popular as a travel destination in recent years, especially among young
近年来，潮州已成为非常受欢迎的旅游目的地，尤其是在年轻
people who are looking for authentic cultural experiences.
寻找地道文化体验的人们。
The local government has done a wonderful job of preserving the ancient city wall and the old lanes,
当地政府在保护古城墙和老巷子方面做出了极好的工作，
like the famous Paifeng Street, which is lined with dozens of beautiful, historic stone archways.
比如著名的牌坊街，街两旁排列着数十座精美且历史悠久的石牌坊。
But what I love most about chaozu is that it has not turned into a sterile, tourist theme park.
但我最喜欢潮州的一点是，它并没有变成一个毫无生气的旅游主题公园。
It is still a living city.
它仍然是一座活生生的城市。
In those ancient houses behind the main streets, real people still live.
在主街后面的那些古老民居里，依然住着真正的居民。
You can walk down a quiet alley in the evening and hear the sound of grandchildren playing,
傍晚时分，你可以漫步在安静的小巷里，听到孙辈们嬉戏的声音，
grandparents singing traditional chaozu opera, and of course, the steam rising from their teapots.
祖父母哼唱着传统的潮剧，当然，还有茶壶里升腾起的蒸汽。
The young generation of chaozu is also very proud of their heritage.
潮州的年轻一代也对自己的文化遗产感到非常自豪。
Many young people are opening stylish cafes that serve traditional Phoenix Dan Kong tea, alongside
许多年轻人正在开设时髦的咖啡馆，提供传统的凤凰单丛茶，与此同时
modern espresso, or using traditional wood carving patterns in modern graphic design.
现代浓缩咖啡，或者在现代平面设计中融入传统木雕图案。
They are not letting their culture die.
他们没有让自己的文化消亡。
They are making it cool and relevant for the 21st century.
他们正在让它变得酷炫，并与21世纪紧密相关。
That is so heartening to hear.
听到这些真是令人振奋。
A culture is only truly alive when it is practiced and evolved by the younger generation, not just
一种文化只有在被年轻一代实践和演变时才真正具有生命力，而不仅仅是
kept under glass.
被罩在玻璃罩下。
Alexander, this has been an absolutely mesmerizing journey into the heart of chaozu.
亚历山大，这绝对是一次走入潮州核心地带的、令人着迷的旅程。
I feel like I have walked across the floating bridge, smelled the camphor wood of the carving shops,
我感觉自己仿佛走过了浮桥，闻到了雕刻铺里樟木的香气，
tasted the melt -in -your -mouth beef, and felt the warm, peaceful spirit of the local people.
尝到了入口即化的牛肉，感受到了当地人温暖、平和的精神面貌。
Thank you, Caroline.
谢谢你，卡罗琳。
Chaozu is a place that stays in your heart long after you leave.
潮州是一个在你离开很久后依然会留在你心间的地界。
I hope our conversation today inspires your listeners to explore this magical city and maybe
我希望我们今天的谈话能启发听众们去探索这座神奇的城市，也许还能
introduce a little bit of the chaozu slow -life philosophy into their own busy lives. Indeed.
将一点潮州慢生活的哲学引入他们自己忙碌的生活中。确实如此。
To wrap up today's wonderful journey, we have a fun question for all our listeners.
为了给今天美妙的旅程画上句号，我们给所有听众准备了一个有趣的问题。
If you could experience just one thing in chaozu, would you choose to learn the precise steps of
如果你只能在潮州体验一件事，你会选择学习制作工夫茶的精确步骤，
brewing a traditional Gong Fu tea ceremony?
冲泡传统的工夫茶仪式吗？
Or would you prefer to watch the master craftsman beat fresh beef into bouncy meatballs using those
还是你更愿意看着手艺精湛的匠人，用那两根
heavy iron rots?
沉重的铁棒捶打新鲜牛肉，制成富有弹性的牛肉丸？
Please write down your answer in the comment section below, or take a look at what other listeners
请在下方的评论区写下你的答案，或者看一看其他听众
have shared.
的分享。
We love reading your thoughts.
我们非常喜欢阅读你们的想法。
If you enjoyed this deep dive into cultural geography, please consider joining our Talkcast membership.
如果你喜欢这次对文化地理的深度探索，请考虑加入我们的 Talkcast 会员。
By becoming a member, you will get access to exclusive bonus content and deep dive travel guides.
成为会员后，你将获得独家的附加内容和深度旅游指南。
Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast, share it with your friends, and leave us a review.
不要忘记订阅我们的播客，分享给你的朋友，并给我们留下评价。
Your support helps us keep bringing these amazing stories to the world.
您的支持能帮助我们继续把这些令人惊叹的故事带给全世界。
As a quick reminder for our English learners, the full transcript of today's episode along with the
给我们的英语学习者做个快速提醒，今天这期节目的完整文稿以及
audio file is available on our official website at www .talkcast .top.
音频文件都可以在我们的官方网站 www.talkcast.top 上获取。
Please go check it out to help with your listening and reading practice.
请去查看一下，这对你的听力和阅读练习会有所帮助。
Lastly, we want to hear from you.
最后，我们想听听你们的声音。
Please leave a comment on our website or social media telling us which place or culture you would
请在我们的网站或社交媒体上留言，告诉我们你希望
like us to explore next.
我们下一次去探索哪个地方或文化。
I will choose our next destination based on your wonderful suggestions.
我将根据你们精彩的建议来选择我们的下一个目的地。
Thank you so much for joining us on Talkcast Discovery.
非常感谢您加入我们的 Talkcast 探索之旅。
Keep exploring, stay curious, and we will see you in the next episode.
保持探索，保持好奇，我们下期节目再见。
Thank you.
谢谢大家。
